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Curiously, Adamczewski says that the Jesus coming from Nazaret to be baptized from John is allegory of Paul being zealot for the Law and therefore still sinner.

Therefore according to Adamczewski in Mark is described really the same conversion of Paul with the scene of baptism: the Spirit comes down on Paul/''Jesus'' and purifies him.

By coincidence Secret Alias and Adamczewski are saying the same thing about Mark: the story of a conversion of a god (for SA) and of a man (for Adamczewski).

But you see the basic difference: a man (Paul) may still be converted without no embarrassment. But a god (YHWH) who converts himself is very embarrassing!

But in support of Secret Alias, I read that Paul calls himself ABORT, the ektroma (and not an ektroma), an attribute of the Demiurge.

Therefore to say that the man Paul is allegorized as ''Jesus'' in Mark would be equivalent to say that the Demiurge is allegorized as ''Jesus'' in Mark.

This would mean that the idea of a Paul persecutor is marcionite in essentia: the ''ABORT'' Paul was persecutor of the Christians just as the Jewish God was persecutor of the Jews when he wanted to impose his Law on them.

But Detering said that the story of Paul persecutor in Galatians 1 is a proto-Catholic interpolation. Were the Catholics replacing the YHWH sinner with a Paul sinner? Was the same Gospel of Mark so strongly paulinized in order to make that replacement in the original Gospel? For a catholic, it is surely better to have ''Jesus'' as Paul, and ''Christ'' as Jesus Christ, more than to have ''Jesus'' as the Demiurge and ''Christ'' as an Alien God.

Giuseppe wrote:.. what do you think about the relation between Marcion and the god of the Jews? Was it hate or love?

Brahman (god) is like the 'unknown ' God of Marcion. It is a common religious attitude towards the ' imperfect' reality of life as it exists.


" Na vilakshanatvadasya tathatvam cha sabdat II.1.4 (138)
(The objector says that) Brahman cannot be the cause of the
world, because this (the world) is of a different nature (from
Brahman) and its being so (different from Brahman) (is known) from the scriptures.
Brahma Sutras

Therefore, Brahman cannot be the cause of the material universe.
Brahman, which is pure spirit, cannot be the cause of this universe, which is impure matter. The world which consists of pain, pleasure and illusion cannot be derived from Brahman "