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Another argument from Tacitus
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 4:25 am
by spin
- Tacitus was an honest Roman who told the truth (when he could).
- He mentions Jesus, though not in a positive light.
- Despite his prejudices, his honesty shone through.
- He must have told the truth when he mentioned Jesus.
- Therefore, Jesus existed.
The Maurice Casey Argument
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 5:29 am
by spin
- I know Aramaic.
- I can reconstruct the Aramaic original of the gospel.
- We can derive the original words of Jesus.
- Therefore, Jesus existed. (And there's nothing you can say about it to the contrary.)
Argument from atheists
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 5:33 am
by spin
- Atheists are losers (and won't get into heaven).
- Nothing they say is of any value.
- Their statement that Jesus didn't exist has no value.
- Therefore, Jesus existed.
The Richard Carrier argument
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 5:49 am
by spin
- Richard Carrier doesn't adhere to the consensus of biblical scholars.
- He is a fringe scholar.
- Nothing the fringe says can be taken seriously.
- You cannot take Carrier's view that Jesus did not exist seriously.
- Therefore, Jesus existed.
The Wrong-Way Peter Peachfuzz argument
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 5:57 am
by spin
Peter Peachfuzz once said Jesus didn't exist.- Therefore, Jesus existed.
Argument from Paul's beliefs
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 6:00 am
by spin
- Paul believed Jesus was a real person, born of a woman, from the line of David, who came and was crucified.
Argument from what Paul received from others
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 6:05 am
by spin
- Paul got his information about Jesus from someone and he didn't talk about mousetraps for those 15 days with Peter.
Argument from Conspiracy theory
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 6:14 am
by spin
- That Jesus didn't exist requires one to believe that those who started christianity were liars who conspired to cobble together a religion.
- Conspiracy theories are inherently untrustworthy.
- The theory that Jesus didn't exist, being a conspiracy theory is inherently untrustworthy.
- Therefore, Jesus existed.
The Josh McDowell argument
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 6:17 am
by spin
- Josh McDowell is so incompetent he couldn't make up the stuff he says.
- He says that Jesus exists.
- He obviously didn't make that up.
- Therefore, Jesus existed.
Re: Proofs That Jesus Existed
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 6:31 am
by Blood
ARGUMENT FROM THE TROJAN WAR
(1) The Iliad was written hundreds of years after the Trojan War
(2) Scholars believe it nonetheless contains authentic information
(3) The gospels were written only decades after Jesus
(4) Therefore, Jesus existed.