Why did no New Testament books mention AD70?

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Re: Why did no New Testament books mention AD70?

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Not as funny as claiming that "the fall of Jerusalem is of no importance to Christian theology." That's Don Rickles funny.
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The fall of Jerusalem is of no importance in Christian theology .
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Jokes no longer seem as funny if you keep telling them. Make up some new ones.
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Re: Why did no New Testament books mention AD70?

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The destruction of the temple is of no theological importance for Christianity. It is nothing.
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iskander wrote:The destruction of the temple is of no theological importance for Christianity. It is nothing.
Not true.

It is my own thesis that the gospel known as Mark was created because the way Christians shared information early on orally had changed with the war.

No longer could they meet at Passover and talk with other communities who also made the pilgrimage to the temple.

With the temple down, an instant need was created to have written literature, a need to compile things that were discussed at the temple yearly that were important to said early communities.

Without the fall of the temple, the written text would be different as the theology would have evolved further before compilation. Its my own opinion we would end up with something in between luke and matthew as a first gospel.
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Re: Why did no New Testament books mention AD70?

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iskander wrote: The fall of Jerusalem is of no importance to Christian theology.

It accelerated the divorce of these Christian Hellenist from cultural Judaism. The followers in the Diaspora due to the temple falling and war, did not want to be identified with these trouble makers who killed their hero. They made the Jews the bad guys instead of Romans.
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Re: Why did no New Testament books mention AD70?

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outhouse wrote:
iskander wrote:The destruction of the temple is of no theological importance for Christianity. It is nothing.
Not true.

It is my own thesis that the gospel known as Mark was created because the way Christians shared information early on orally had changed with the war.

No longer could they meet at Passover and talk with other communities who also made the pilgrimage to the temple.

With the temple down, an instant need was created to have written literature, a need to compile things that were discussed at the temple yearly that were important to said early communities.

Without the fall of the temple, the written text would be different as the theology would have evolved further before compilation. Its my own opinion we would end up with something in between luke and matthew as a first gospel.
Thank you outhouse.
Please. Give me an example of how the destruction of the temple affected Christian theology?
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iskander wrote:Please. Give me an example of how the destruction of the temple affected Christian theology?
With the Promotion of the Postdiction of the Destruction of the Temple as PREdiction, it gave this "Jesus" character the Authority as the so-called Son-of-God.
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Charles Wilson wrote:
iskander wrote:Please. Give me an example of how the destruction of the temple affected Christian theology?
With the Promotion of the Postdiction of the Destruction of the Temple as PREdiction, it gave this "Jesus" character the Authority as the so-called Son-of-God.
Thank you Charles
The New Testament is a Jewish narrative of events that took place before the temple was destroyed. This narrative would reflect the cultural and historical events of its people and times .

Was Jesus made ( declared) God in the Council Nicaea in 325 AD because the temple had been destroyed?
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Whether it affects theology proper or not it affects polemics against Judaism. Christian to a Jew: "Where's your sacrifice? You can't sacrifice without the temple. And you can't be saved without a sacrifice. So you better accept Jesus." Am I mis-remembering or doesn't Justin use that argument in the Dialogue with Trypho?
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