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Paul ignores the birth by woman

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:26 am
by Giuseppe

6 Who, being in very nature of God,
did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;
7 rather, he emptied himself
by taking the very nature of a servant
,
being made in human likeness.

(Philippians 2:6-7)

The Christ created himself spontaneously, already adult.

Hence "born by woman" of Gal 4:4 is allegorical or interpolated.

Re: Paul ignores the birth by woman

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:08 pm
by davidmartin
If nothing else this should give pause for thought on the large theological differences found in the NT that are really quite out in the open
Biblical inerrantists will have none of this but compare this passage to Luke's account, it is different and why is that?
Speculation on the Mother of Jesus was already around in his time, and I think he opposed it in any form. That's why he argues elsewhere about who Christians should consider their Mother to be, because of other teachings that did use that symbology. And Paul used it too, but only in the context of Christ being born in him, and he sometimes adopts a motherly type role. There's more to this. Much more

Re: Paul ignores the birth by woman

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:17 pm
by Giuseppe
Luke's account of the birth of Jesus is pure 100% anti-marcionism even if Marcion corrupted proto-Luke (and I doubt it). Really, it is too much evident that the Christ of the Philippians hymn descends as adult in the lower heavens, since he takes that decision as only an adult can take it. The text assumes that until the last moment he could not obey to the his father and rebel as Satan. A child can't take similar decisions.

Really, who argues that there Jesus "emptied himself" until to become a child (!) seems to reason as an apologist because it is evident that he/she is harmonizing contrasting things.

Differently is the case in Revelation, where the mother of Jesus gives him birth in heaven and Jesus is too much little to take decisions independently from the his mother.