Re: Eisenman and the DSS
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 11:11 am
Regarding the identity of the "kings of the peoples" in CD col 8, while the expression "the peoples" (ha-amim) is applicable to Gentiles, it can also refer to all people in general, including Jews, like in Dt. 7:6:
"For you are a people holy to the LORD your God. The LORD your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession."
http://biblehub.com/hebrew/5971.htm
So whoever these "kings of the peoples" were, they could have ruled over Jews and Gentiles (which would be the case even if they were Seleucids).
These kings are mentioned in an interpretation of Dt. 32:33:
"'Their wine is the venom of serpents, the cruel poison of asps.' The serpents are the kings of the peoples and their wine is their ways. And the poison of asps is the chief [or "head"; Hebrew: rosh] of the kings of Greece who came to wreak vengeance upon them."
The reference to the "kings of Greece" makes the identification of the preceding "kings of the peoples" seem straightforward enough. These were Greek kings and likely the Seleucids.
But even if we forget about James and Eisenman, the big picture makes this identification hard for me to accept. For example, there are any number of OT verses that mention foreign kings and their peoples, yet these kings are tied to a prophecy that pertains to "the princes of Judah" (Hos. 5:10), who:
"have become like those who remove the bound; wrath shall be poured upon them. For they shall hope for healing but He will crush them. They are all of them rebels, [ms. B: for they have entered the Covenant of repentance but] they have not turned from the way of traitors but have wallowed in the ways of whoredom and wicked wealth ... and every man has sinned against his near kin, and has approached for un-chastity, and has acted arrogantly for the sake of riches and gain. And every man has done that which seemed right in his eyes and has chosen the stubbornness of his heart. They have not kept apart from the people [ms. B: and their sin] and have willfully rebelled by walking in the ways of the wicked."
And this seems to suggest that these kings were seen as not properly observing Jewish laws. This is reinforced by CD cols. 4 and 5, which ties the issue of fornication to "joining the house of Judah," polluting the Temple and a law that pertains to Israelite kings (Dt. 17:17) :
"[T]here shall be no more joining the house of Judah, but each man shall stand on his watchtower: 'The wall is built, the boundary far removed' [Mic. 7:2]. During all those years Belial shall be unleashed against Israel, as He spoke by the hand of Isaiah, son of Amoz, saying, 'Terror and the pit and the snare are upon you, 0 inhabitant of the land' [Is. 24:17]. Interpreted, these are the three nets of Belial with which Levi son of Jacob said that he catches Israel by setting them up as three kinds of righteousness. The first is riches, the second is fornication, and the third is profanation of the Temple. Whoever escapes the first is caught in the second, and whoever saves himself from the second is caught in the third [Is. 24:18].
"The builders of the wall [Ezk. 13:10] who have followed after ' Precept' - 'Precept' was a spouter of whom it is written, 'They shall surely spout' [Mic. 2:6] - shall be caught in fornication twice by taking a second wife while the first is alive, whereas the principle of creation is, 'Male and female created He them' [Gen. 1:27]. Also, those who entered the Ark went in two by two. And concerning the prince it is written, He shall not multiply wives to himself [Dt. 17:17]; but David had not read the sealed book of the Law which was in the ark (of the Covenant), for it was not opened in Israel from the death of Eleazar and Joshua, and the elders who worshipped Ashtoreth. It was hidden and (was not) revealed until the coming of Zadok. And the deeds of David rose up, except for the murder of Uriah, and God left them to him.
"Moreover, they profane the Temple because they do not observe the distinction (between clean and unclean) in accordance with the Law, but lie with a woman who sees her bloody discharge. And each man marries the daughter of his brother or sister, whereas Moses said, You shall not approach your mothers sister; she is your mother's near kin [Lev. 18:13]. But although the laws against incest are written for men, they also apply to women. When, therefore, a brother's daughter uncovers the nakedness of her father's brother, she is (also his) near kin."
Notice that they use David as an example of a king that did not follow the law against taking multiple wives, and not a foreign king, and that it is for not properly observing these laws against fornication that these kings polluted the Temple (and not because they desecrated it in the manner of Antiochus or Pompey).
So my question is, what kings could be viewed as being Greek and ruled over "the peoples" (possibly Jews and Gentiles), to whom a law and a prophecy that pertain to Israelite kings could be applied and who polluted the Temple because they did not properly observe Jewish laws besides the Herodians?
"For you are a people holy to the LORD your God. The LORD your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession."
http://biblehub.com/hebrew/5971.htm
So whoever these "kings of the peoples" were, they could have ruled over Jews and Gentiles (which would be the case even if they were Seleucids).
These kings are mentioned in an interpretation of Dt. 32:33:
"'Their wine is the venom of serpents, the cruel poison of asps.' The serpents are the kings of the peoples and their wine is their ways. And the poison of asps is the chief [or "head"; Hebrew: rosh] of the kings of Greece who came to wreak vengeance upon them."
The reference to the "kings of Greece" makes the identification of the preceding "kings of the peoples" seem straightforward enough. These were Greek kings and likely the Seleucids.
But even if we forget about James and Eisenman, the big picture makes this identification hard for me to accept. For example, there are any number of OT verses that mention foreign kings and their peoples, yet these kings are tied to a prophecy that pertains to "the princes of Judah" (Hos. 5:10), who:
"have become like those who remove the bound; wrath shall be poured upon them. For they shall hope for healing but He will crush them. They are all of them rebels, [ms. B: for they have entered the Covenant of repentance but] they have not turned from the way of traitors but have wallowed in the ways of whoredom and wicked wealth ... and every man has sinned against his near kin, and has approached for un-chastity, and has acted arrogantly for the sake of riches and gain. And every man has done that which seemed right in his eyes and has chosen the stubbornness of his heart. They have not kept apart from the people [ms. B: and their sin] and have willfully rebelled by walking in the ways of the wicked."
And this seems to suggest that these kings were seen as not properly observing Jewish laws. This is reinforced by CD cols. 4 and 5, which ties the issue of fornication to "joining the house of Judah," polluting the Temple and a law that pertains to Israelite kings (Dt. 17:17) :
"[T]here shall be no more joining the house of Judah, but each man shall stand on his watchtower: 'The wall is built, the boundary far removed' [Mic. 7:2]. During all those years Belial shall be unleashed against Israel, as He spoke by the hand of Isaiah, son of Amoz, saying, 'Terror and the pit and the snare are upon you, 0 inhabitant of the land' [Is. 24:17]. Interpreted, these are the three nets of Belial with which Levi son of Jacob said that he catches Israel by setting them up as three kinds of righteousness. The first is riches, the second is fornication, and the third is profanation of the Temple. Whoever escapes the first is caught in the second, and whoever saves himself from the second is caught in the third [Is. 24:18].
"The builders of the wall [Ezk. 13:10] who have followed after ' Precept' - 'Precept' was a spouter of whom it is written, 'They shall surely spout' [Mic. 2:6] - shall be caught in fornication twice by taking a second wife while the first is alive, whereas the principle of creation is, 'Male and female created He them' [Gen. 1:27]. Also, those who entered the Ark went in two by two. And concerning the prince it is written, He shall not multiply wives to himself [Dt. 17:17]; but David had not read the sealed book of the Law which was in the ark (of the Covenant), for it was not opened in Israel from the death of Eleazar and Joshua, and the elders who worshipped Ashtoreth. It was hidden and (was not) revealed until the coming of Zadok. And the deeds of David rose up, except for the murder of Uriah, and God left them to him.
"Moreover, they profane the Temple because they do not observe the distinction (between clean and unclean) in accordance with the Law, but lie with a woman who sees her bloody discharge. And each man marries the daughter of his brother or sister, whereas Moses said, You shall not approach your mothers sister; she is your mother's near kin [Lev. 18:13]. But although the laws against incest are written for men, they also apply to women. When, therefore, a brother's daughter uncovers the nakedness of her father's brother, she is (also his) near kin."
Notice that they use David as an example of a king that did not follow the law against taking multiple wives, and not a foreign king, and that it is for not properly observing these laws against fornication that these kings polluted the Temple (and not because they desecrated it in the manner of Antiochus or Pompey).
So my question is, what kings could be viewed as being Greek and ruled over "the peoples" (possibly Jews and Gentiles), to whom a law and a prophecy that pertain to Israelite kings could be applied and who polluted the Temple because they did not properly observe Jewish laws besides the Herodians?