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Re: Alfaric on how Simon Magus entered in the first gospel

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2022 10:15 pm
by Sinouhe
schillingklaus wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 3:40 pm Paul is not one side but late fabrication using multiple sides. Peter and James are also late dogmatic fiction with no historical value whatsoever. First century christians are equally a hallucination of naive followers of patristic forgery, as is the dependence of Lk, Mt, and Jn on Mk. Therefore, Sinouhe's objection holds no water, as do all objections based on naive chronology rather than the logical structure of dogm and sacraments.
You throw the baby out with the bath water.

Re: Alfaric on how Simon Magus entered in the first gospel

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2022 11:31 pm
by MrMacSon
schillingklaus wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 3:40 pm Paul is not one side but late fabrication using multiple sides.
  1. What do you mean by late?
  2. What do you mean by "using multiple sides"?

Re: Alfaric on how Simon Magus entered in the first gospel

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:53 am
by schillingklaus
The Pauline writings are much later than they pretend to be, definitely not before the destruction of the temple. There is just a lot of patristic legend about the activity of apostles in order to enforce a traditional picture of the origins of Roman Catholic doctrine as one going back to some generation before the destruction, similar to the activity of the Jewish prophets before the end of the first temple according to the Septuagint.

The epistles betray knowledge of more or less Judaizing phases in the evolution towards Christianity; yet ultimately they confess Roman Catholicism.