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Leucius Charinus wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 2:28 am

mlinssen wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:38 pm

andrewcriddle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:41 am

mlinssen wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:46 am Everything is dated via palaeography and the very first verifiable document that had been dated are the Lindisfarne gospels

Everything else is up for debate and hasn't been dated scientifically - nothing of it

The Dura Europus Gospel Harmony pretty well must be dated before the siege of Dura Europus 256 CE.

Andrew Criddle

Thanks Andrew! I didn't know of that one. Essentially still palaeography but at least there's circumstantial evidence to date the paper - and if solid it would attest to the burial (and hence likely resurrection)

It is a very puzzling fragment really, full of differences yet also similarities

DP24

Dura Parchment 24 is a critical manuscript because it is understood to be dated by
archaeological stratiographic dating prior to the fall of Dura Europos 256–57 CE. It's dating thus does not rely on paleography in isolation as do the rest of the "Early Christian papyri". It was discovered on March 5, 1933 by Clark Hopkins’ wife, Susan, in a workman’s bucket. [1] It was presumed that it came “from the embankment, behind (west of) Block L8 and not far from Tower 18.” [1]

Hopkins writes: “How it got into the debris at that point remains a mystery, and how it happened to be preserved and then discovered is another.” [1]

Could DP24 have been introduced to Dura between the 3rd and the 20th century? We don’t know for sure despite the consensus opinion to the contrary. In any event the text is a harmony gospel and not a canonical gospel. This opens up further questions. Perhaps the four canonical gospels are derived from a single harmony gospel, and not the other way around?

[1] The Discovery of Dura-Europos, Clark Hopkins,1979

Secret Alias wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:21 am Unless of course "orthodox scholars" went to the ruins dug up somewhere and "planted" the fragment to confound the power and authority of mountainman years in anticipation of his advent. You guys do it for Morton Smith ...