Kunigunde Kreuzerin wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 5:34 am
VetteWritingWithScripture.jpg
I might also throw a snippet in here
Supposing that Mark is taking the incident or image of the young man fleeing naked from some version of the Scriptures of Israel (which I think is very plausible) - what is the incident's function in the narrative of Mark's gospel? Did Mark have a purpose or intelligible reason for selecting that particular incident or image to include in his gospel?
Kunigunde Kreuzerin wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 5:34 am
VetteWritingWithScripture.jpg
I might also throw a snippet in here
Supposing that Mark is taking the incident or image of the young man fleeing naked from some version of the Scriptures of Israel (which I think is very plausible) - what is the incident's function in the narrative of Mark's gospel? Did Mark have a purpose or intelligible reason for selecting that particular incident or image to include in his gospel?
Best,
Ken
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Amos 2 is a prophecy about the destruction of Jerusalem. Mark had multiple reasons to use Amos 2 for his agenda :
Amos mentions :
- The sins of Juda (Israel)
- The righteous being sold for money by Juda (Israel)
- The destruction of Jerusalem
The prophecy of Amos has no application here. It does not fit the text well, for in Mark the young man is not "the bravest" (he is not the one who struck the sword) and in Amos it is not said that the warrior "gives up" a garment.
translated from
La prophétie d’Amos n’a pas ici d’application. Elle s’adapte mal d’ailleurs, au texte car dans Marc le jeune homme n’est pas “ le plus courageux ” (ce n’est pas lui quia donné le coup d’épée) et dans Amos il n’est pas dit que le guerrier “ abandonne ” un vêtement.
Yes that's the common answer regarding the connection with Amos. But these scholars, like Couchoud, seems to ignore another verse from the equation and the whole context of Amos 2 :
Yes, I think you are right and that in this case Couchoud has missed something of Mark's nuance.
Ken Olson wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 6:12 amDid Mark have a purpose or intelligible reason for selecting that particular incident or image to include in his gospel?
I'm sure you must have your own more informed views but I see passages like these (e.g. darkness at noonday) as indicators that readers are meant to interpret the narrative as the fulfilment of God's judgment. Later we find Jesus buried in a tomb hewn out of rock, a description that Karel Hanhart saw as an echo of the fallen temple in Isaiah 22:16. The irony of the Roman triumphal procession underlying Jesus walk to the Golgotha is thus concluded.
Further, does not the nakedness image remind one of the demoniac who had once been found living among the tombs and who was said to be clothed as a sign of his healing, so he was presumably naked until then. In such a context, is it not easy to think of the young man in Gethsemane so easily losing "his cover" under duress and being exposed as in a state of total loss, powerlessness, exclusion, (sinfulness)?
