How many denominations of mythicism is there?

[Ulan]

The whole premise of this thread is based on a lack of mental clarity.

The mythicism that is usually discussed on this board is not a religion and has no semblance of one, either, but an argument in the field of history of how a historical question ("Was Jesus a historical person or not?") is best answered according to the available evidence.

You only get into the field of religion as soon as you get to your belief whether the Christian myth is true or not. Most - though not all - Christians believe the Christian myth to be true. Many Christians don't necessarily believe that completely, but still believe the general message to be true, even though many details may be legendary.

As this is about completely different fields - history vs. religious beliefs - you can get all sorts of mixtures of positions.

[mlinssen]

I was going to go out and get myself some serious hallucinatives for the weekend, but I'm all set now that I've read everything in this thread.
Oddly, the thread makes a lot more sense when you read it backwards

[GakuseiDon]

There is also a historian who believes that Rome didn't exist. Apparently the story of Rome was created around the Renaissance period by the Catholic Church -- which was centred in Rome -- to provide a history connecting Rome to Christianity. She also has her own ideas about Jesus:
https://www.ancient-origins.net/news-ge ... st-0016148

Ancient Rome Didn’t Exist, Claims a Qualified Bachelor of History

... Rome was ‘a figment of the Spanish inquisition's imagination,’ and that not ‘a single extant Roman document or primary document,’ had ever been discovered...

... in October another of her videos claimed Jesus Christ could be translated to ‘clitoris healer.’

Not sure what category she belongs to.

[ABuddhist]

This is one of the most incoherent threads I've ever read in my life.

I agree, but I tried to make it more coherent by giving respectful feedback to John T. Will he like it?

[Leucius Charinus]

The more general question would be how many denominations of history, myth or fiction are there?

History = an exposition of true things that actually happened

Fiction = an exposition of things that did not happen (falsehoods) but could have

Myth/Fable = an exposition of things that could not have happened - remote from history and fiction remote not only from the truth but also from the appearance of truth

Here's an example of myth fiction:

"the fabrication of the Christians is a fiction of men composed by wickedness. Though it has in it nothing divine, by making full use of that part of the soul which loves fable and is childish and foolish, it has induced men to believe that the monstrous tale is truth."

[schillingklaus]

What is truth?

[Leucius Charinus]

What is truth?

The opposite of falsehood.

In this discussion forum I guess it relates more to the historical truth other than to the philosophical truth which Socrates relentlessly pursued. By historical truth is meant a narrative of things that actually happened as distinct from myth and fiction which are narratives that did not actually happen but were fabricated or invented.

Was Jesus an historical, mythical or fictional figure?
We may never know (the historical truth).

[lsayre]

If there ever was a historical Jesus, he clearly had no relation to miracles, virgin birth, resurrection, or ascension. All of these fantasy attributes would have come later.

[John T]

The Mythicist Agenda.

"What is driving the mythicists agenda? ...It is no accident that virtually all mythicists (in fact, all of them, to my knowledge) are either atheists or agnostics....Their agenda is religious, and they are complicit in a religious ideology. They are not doing history; they are doing theology."...pg 336-338 Did Jesus Exist? by Dr. Ehrman.

A cult based on religion is still a religious cult no matter how you try to sell it.

[John T]

The whole premise of this thread is based on a lack of mental clarity.

Let me help you with your lack of mental clarity.

You don't have to be a theist to be a theologian.

While we are at it, just because you are in denial of Christian history doesn't make you an atheist.

Got it?
I didn't think so, most mythicists lack mental clarity.