How many denominations of mythicism is there?

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John T wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 6:47 am The Mythicist Agenda.

"What is driving the mythicists agenda? ...It is no accident that virtually all mythicists (in fact, all of them, to my knowledge) are either atheists or agnostics....Their agenda is religious, and they are complicit in a religious ideology. They are not doing history; they are doing theology."...pg 336-338 Did Jesus Exist? by Dr. Ehrman.

A cult based on religion is still a religious cult no matter how you try to sell it.
We have repeatedly shown to you on other threads that:

1. that book is not reliable;

2. Mythicists belong to many religions, including Christianity.

Besides, cannot the same thing be said about theists who try to reconstruct a historical Jesus?
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John T wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:20 am most mythicists lack mental clarity.
What proof do you have for this assertion? Or even evidence?

I could say that various people with other beliefs lack mental clarity, but it would be off-topic for this thread.
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Is anyone who does not believe in a god, or god(s), or in a transcendent consciousness of any sort, be it collective, or individual, or internal, or external, or a hybrid sort of cross between these, automatically classified to be a mythicist?

I thought myth was the realm of those who do believe in any or all of the above. And thus the mythicist was to be found to accept at least one of the above.
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lsayre wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 10:34 am Is anyone who does not believe in a god, or god(s), or in a transcendent consciousness of any sort, be it collective, or individual, or internal, or external, or a hybrid sort of cross between these, automatically classified to be a mythicist?

I thought myth was the realm of those who do believe in any or all of the above. And thus the mythicist was to be found to accept at least one of the above.
It depends on which denomination the mythicist identifies with.

Don't forget the atheist mythicists. That is the group that believes no atheists ever existed.
That is, atheism is a religious myth :tomato:
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And then there is the phenomenon (weapon?, self defense mechanism?) of psychological "projection".
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Chris Hansen wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 10:24 am Thomas L. Brodie is a mythicist with a peer reviewed book arguing Jesus didn't exist. In the same book he also argues he is still Christian and discusses how he maintains his Catholic faith.
O.K. I'll bite. Tell us Chris, just how did Brodie deal with his cognitive dissonance? :popcorn:

Please don't blow it like last time. :roll:
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John T wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 12:15 pm Don't forget the atheist mythicists. That is the group that believes no atheists ever existed.
Such people are even more marginalized than mythicists asserting that Jesus was a myth - and the atheist mythicists are mostly guided, as far as I am aware, by the Christians' scriptures, being Christians.
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John T wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 1:19 pm
Chris Hansen wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 10:24 am Thomas L. Brodie is a mythicist with a peer reviewed book arguing Jesus didn't exist. In the same book he also argues he is still Christian and discusses how he maintains his Catholic faith.
O.K. I'll bite. Tell us Chris, just how did Brodie deal with his cognitive dissonance? :popcorn:

Please don't blow it like last time. :roll:
You can read Brodie's book yourself in order to find out, if you are so curious. I assume that he has a faith in Jesus as a celestial/divine saviour figure similar to Amitabha Buddha, but I am just guessing.

But many thanks for finally acknowledging that Christian mythicists exist.
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Chris Hansen wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 3:39 pm
John T wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 1:19 pm
Chris Hansen wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 10:24 am Thomas L. Brodie is a mythicist with a peer reviewed book arguing Jesus didn't exist. In the same book he also argues he is still Christian and discusses how he maintains his Catholic faith.
O.K. I'll bite. Tell us Chris, just how did Brodie deal with his cognitive dissonance? :popcorn:

Please don't blow it like last time. :roll:
By being an intellectually curious person is how he did it. You should read his book. It is easily yours via a purchase on Amazon. I don't need to explain something to you that you can read for yourself. That isn't my responsibility.
I pretty much outlined his book in a series at https://vridar.org/tag/brodie-beyond-th ... cal-jesus/

John T, there are more things to learn about in life, the universe and everything than what you'll find in a single book with your preferred authority telling you how to interpret it.
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Re: How many denominations of mythicism is there?

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Chris Hansen wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 3:39 pm
John T wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 1:19 pm
Chris Hansen wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 10:24 am Thomas L. Brodie is a mythicist with a peer reviewed book arguing Jesus didn't exist. In the same book he also argues he is still Christian and discusses how he maintains his Catholic faith.
O.K. I'll bite. Tell us Chris, just how did Brodie deal with his cognitive dissonance? :popcorn:

Please don't blow it like last time. :roll:
By being an intellectually curious person is how he did it. You should read his book. It is easily yours via a purchase on Amazon. I don't need to explain something to you that you can read for yourself. That isn't my responsibility.
Not surprisingly, Chris blew it again. You had a chance to prove you were telling the truth about Brodie but instead you defaulted to a red herring once again. Of course you know that Brodie says you are a big phony. You can read it in his book. It is easily yours via a purchase on Amazon.

Back to the time-out corner you go. :facepalm:
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