How many denominations of mythicism is there?

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ABuddhist
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Re: How many denominations of mythicism is there?

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John T wrote: Wed Jul 27, 2022 6:35 pm I apologize for those who are not of the mythicist movement and are just trying to see how many different groups of mythicists are out there.
I thank you for your apology - this thread has really gone off the rails.
John T wrote: Wed Jul 27, 2022 6:35 pm You are to be commended for enduring such hyperbole, distractions, slanderous comments, and flat out lies by the mythicists. They do this so as to hide the fact they are just another fringe cult.
Where have mythicists denied that they are fringe? And opponents to mythicism also engage in hyperbole, distractions, slanderous comments, and flat out lies, as may be learned by asking Neil Godfrey or reading the words of karavan or Tim O'Neill.

I, a non-mythicist, do not begrudge you your efforts to discover mythicists' motives, but for you to repeatedly ignore evidence that mythicists are not all atheists reveals a major gap in your reasoning and research abilities.
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Re: How many denominations of mythicism is there?

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John T wrote: Wed Jul 27, 2022 6:35 pm John T is done with this thread. :cheers:
Wheh -- mercifully! Conclusion: he really is a classic troll if that word has any meaning at all.
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ABuddhist wrote: Thu Jul 28, 2022 3:48 am Where have mythicists denied that they are fringe? And opponents to mythicism also engage in hyperbole, distractions, slanderous comments, and flat out lies, as may be learned by asking Neil Godfrey or reading the words of karavan or Tim O'Neill.
Pst... keep this quiet in case John T is still within hearing range, but I don't see how I can be labelled "a mythicist" since I have never set out a comprehensive case for mythicism and am quite open to the possibility of a historical Jesus. My interest and efforts have been more with trying to understand Christian origins and the origins and nature of the earliest sources. The mere idea of arguing whether or not Jesus existed is for me a tedious quest and as a rule I try to avoid those debates.

I suppose I am labelled by some as a mythicist because I am open to the question of the historicity of Jesus and I do often see superior methods and logic in several mythicist works -- while noting the horrors in the methods and logic of many HJ advocates.

Several scholars who believe in a historical Jesus are some of the best advocates for a mythic Jesus at Christian beginnings. Like Brodie, though perhaps not for the same reasons as Brodie, they simply avoid making explicit the logical conclusions their studies have for Christian origins without an HJ.
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