Christian and/or Nonmythicist scholars who assert/asserted that the TF was entirely forged

[ABuddhist]

Who are and were such people? Assembling such a list would be useful in refuting the claim that only atheists and mythicists think that the entire TF was forged.

[lsayre]

Do luminaries such as Clement of Alexandria and Origen ever mention the TF and use it thereby as historical proof of a living Christ Jesus?

[ABuddhist]

Do luminaries such as Clement of Alexandria and Origin ever mention the TF and use it thereby as historical proof of a living Christ Jesus?

As far as I am aware, no, but Origen cited what most scholars are convinced was Antiquities 20:200 about Jesus.

[DCHindley]

Do luminaries such as Clement of Alexandria and Origin ever mention the TF and use it thereby as historical proof of a living Christ Jesus?

No, the TF as we know it in Josephus' Antiquities bk 18 is first mentioned by Eusebius (in several of his works).

The death of his "brother" James is mentioned by Clement of Alexandria and Origen as the reason for the destruction of Jerusalem, per Josephus, with the catty assertion that Josephus missed the mark as he should have attributed it to the death of Jesus. This was connected to the story of Ananus trying James in Ant. 20:200. The gory details of James' death probably come from Hegesippus' memoirs, book 5. The claimed source of Hegesippus' story is never outright stated by Clement* or Origen, and Hegesippus' own works have not survived. All we have are citations from Eusebius.

*Clement of Alexandria, Hypotyposeis (lost), via Eusebius, History of the Church 2.1.5
5) But there were two Jameses, one being the just one, who was cast down from the pinnacle and was beaten unto death with a club by a fuller, and another who was beheaded.

Ahh, here is where I posted an analysis of ancient sources which mention James the just:

viewtopic.php?p=126402#p126402

DCH

[Leucius Charinus]

Who are and were such people? Assembling such a list would be useful in refuting the claim that only atheists and mythicists think that the entire TF was forged.

"A rank forgery, and a very stupid one, too"
- Bishop Warburton of Gloucester, 1762.


Testimonium Flavianum - A chronological summary of its Censure

INTRODUCTION

The following article attempts to summarise in point form the opinion concerning the authenticity of the primary Jesus reference in Josephus, at Antiquities 18.3.3.

Section 1 deals with introductions to the subject available online which appear to have apologetic bias to the study of sampling of opinion on this question of authenticity.

Section 2 deals with a summary point chronological timeline for mention of the TF (or lack of mention) until Photius.

Section 3 deals with a summary point chronological timeline for censure of the TF (as a forgery) from the late 18th century until 1937, the commencement of Feldman's 1980 survey.

Section 4 deals with a summary point chronological timeline for censure of the TF (as a forgery) of "Modern Authors" from 1980 to the present.

Section 5 reiterates the plain and simple message that the TF is just another plain and simple Eusebian forgery.

http://mountainman.com.au/essenes/Censure_of_the_TF.htm